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Originally Posted by gary_580
Singapore??? What circuit in Singapore?
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Duh! I meant Shanghai!!
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The new circuits have good technical challenges, they have multiple points at which it's possible to pass, they are designed to be a lot safer and they make the old circuits look positively tedious by comparison.
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Rubbish!! Multiple points to overtake? so what doesnt it happen too often?
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What do you mean "rubbish"? And "o what if it doesn't happen too often"
People are *complaining* that F1 is a high speed procession even you say...
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The only times it seems to happen is when cars are passing technically nferior cars. Even Schummy has resorted to passing cars via pit stops rather than on the track.
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... yet you seem to be saying that overtaking is *not* something that you need to worry about in an F1 race!!
The new tracks have places where a faster car with less good handling can get past a slower one that's better in the turns *and* vice versa. Very few of the older tracks have such opportunities which is what can make F1 look tedious.
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The long and short of it is that the cars rely so much on down force tat its no longer possible to over take CONSISTENTLY going into corners.
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I agree that the downforce rules need to be changed because the disruption that the current wing setups cause make it much more difficult for cars behind, but with the "linked turns" on tracks like Bahrain and Shanghai it's possible to avoid that happening so much as a car can take a slightly different line into the turns, get the outside in the middle section and then get the inside *without* hitting the "dirty air".
This, again, doesn't happen on the older tracks.