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Good point, well put :tu:

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Difference is that we are only too happy to denounce Westboro, the KKK and Paisley but when it comes to radical islam we will bend over backwards to blame the atrocities on something, anything, else.

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Once again, a glib comment, but no actual answer...

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I don't know who this 'we' are - everyone I know denounces terrorist attacks, be they from Islamic Extremists, right wing nutters (aka 'lone wolves'), or anyone else...

There may be a few apologists for these idiots, but they are in a vast minority.

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What do you think of this Hugh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AkAGc5nOXw

Or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj8J62BqRMo

If you have the time there is this debte.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghr-JMq1VT0

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The reality is that because of the despicable actions of people like Shipman and now Ian Paterson, the whole of the medical profession comes under closer scrutiny. Is that fair to the vast majority of decent and honourable medics? No. Is it inevitable in order to try to prevent it happening again? Yes.

Most men aren't paedophiles or rapists yet the actions of the minority who are impinges upon the rights and freedoms of every man to the extent that different rules apply to males and females when it comes to matters of child protection. Is that fair?

We all know that most Muslims are just normal decent people but sadly the actions of a few mean that they will inevitably come under closer scrutiny and that is unfair but it's inevitable just like it was in the days when the IRA were bombing the UK and entirely innocent Irish people came under suspicion. The same happened in the wake of the 7/7 attacks and whilst it's very sad it's entirely understandable.

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But in the case of muslim terrorist attacks, without attributing the attack to islam.

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:tu:

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Should an attack be attributed to the religion of the perpetrator immediately? Presumably attributing the cause can't be done until the police investigation has concluded.

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I wouldn't have thought so. :confused:

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If religion has played any part in an individuals actions then it is right to scrutinise that religion and if it's being twisted or distorted to promote violent actions then it is right that action be taken to resolve that. Whether some like it or not the action and the religion cannot be so easily seperated in islamic terror attacks. I have to be honest as an atheist i am puzzled why all traditional western religions are fair game for any attacks and criticism but islam is not with people bending over backwards not to say or do anything that might possibly cause muslims offence.

In most muslim countries they are good at telling visitors and workers from outside that they have to adapt to their country and that the country won't bend to accomadate them but here in the west we are constantly adapting to their needs usually because they complain about our intolerance, racism or ignorance brilliant example of having your cake and eating it and more fool us for putting up with it for so long.

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Westminster on lockdown as police deal with man outside gates.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-gates-reports