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Taf 16-11-2017 14:58

Car Tax Losses
 
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The number of unlicensed vehicles on the road has tripled since the paper tax disc was abolished, government figures show.

The data, published every two years, shows that the government potentially lost out on £107m from 755,000 unlicensed vehicles last year.

The measure was meant to have saved the Treasury £10m.

Figures from the Department for Transport show that 1.8% of vehicles were unlicensed in 2017 compared with 0.6% on 2013.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42009111

Forgetfulness or evasion?

Damien 16-11-2017 15:04

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They still send you reminders, you would have to quite disorganised to forget when you need to tax the car.

You can also check here: https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-tax

papa smurf 16-11-2017 15:48

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you get a V11 reminder form at the beginning of the month of expiry it's hard to forget

but if you never pass an anpr camera your not going to be on the radar until a manual street search is undertaken so i would imagine that's why people risk it .


given the £572 i have paid this year i can understand why people don't pay

Mr K 16-11-2017 16:10

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35925250)
given the £572 i have paid this year i can understand why people don't pay

you're obviously producing a lot of greenhouses gases Smurf ! I pay £30, happy to pay :)

papa smurf 16-11-2017 16:27

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35925254)
you're obviously producing a lot of greenhouses gases Smurf ! I pay £30, happy to pay :)

not really i only travel about 20 miles per week on average ,this tax regime does not take into account miles traveled just because the car has a large engine does not mean it's causing more pollution than a smaller engined car over the course of a year .

Osem 16-11-2017 16:37

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35925258)
not really i only travel about 20 miles per week on average ,this tax regime does not take into account miles traveled just because the car has a large engine does not mean it's causing more pollution than a smaller engined car over the course of a year .

Correct and not exactly rocket science is it. You're responsible for far less noxious gas than many a self righteous eco-car driver. :tu:

Damien 16-11-2017 16:40

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35925261)
Correct and not exactly rocket science is it. You're responsible for far less noxious gas than many a self righteous eco-car driver. :tu:

Not the eco-drivers who drive the same amount. :D

heero_yuy 16-11-2017 17:35

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That's why it really aught to be a surcharge on fuel. If you drive a gas guzzler like petrol's going out of fashion then you'll pay for it. Low mileage in a frugal car and you're quids in. Can't be evaded either unless you're running on moonshine.

Mr K 16-11-2017 18:18

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35925276)
That's why it really aught to be a surcharge on fuel. If you drive a gas guzzler like petrol's going out of fashion then you'll pay for it. Low mileage in a frugal car and you're quids in. Can't be evaded either unless you're running on moonshine.

There already is a surcharge - fuel duty, 58p a litre, plus 20% vat, i.e most of the what you pay goes to the Govt.

heero_yuy 16-11-2017 18:43

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35925282)
There already is a surcharge - fuel duty, 58p a litre, plus 20% vat, i.e most of the what you pay goes to the Govt.

point. missed. :rolleyes:

Osem 16-11-2017 19:00

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35925262)
Not the eco-drivers who drive the same amount. :D

I doubt many are as frugal as 20mpw and I didn't say ALL eco-car drivers. ;)

Mr K 16-11-2017 19:04

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35925289)
point. missed. :rolleyes:

Never mind maybe you'll find it next time ;)

There is an argument taxes aren't high enough. Given the congested roads, multiple car households, and unnecessary short journeys. The tax should of course been invested in and subsidised public transport, which successive govts. have failed to do, despite promises.

Osem 16-11-2017 19:04

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35925276)
That's why it really aught to be a surcharge on fuel. If you drive a gas guzzler like petrol's going out of fashion then you'll pay for it. Low mileage in a frugal car and you're quids in. Can't be evaded either unless you're running on moonshine.

No doubt some folks rather like displaying their eco credentials when in fact they drive everywhere producing all sorts of emissions. It's a bit like those rich celebs who make themselves feel better about the carbon emissions from their supercars, boats and planes that they buy a Prius to use for the PR value.

blackthorn 16-11-2017 19:28

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35925294)
I doubt many are as frugal as 20mpw and I didn't say ALL eco-car drivers. ;)

I`m not far behind you, my little car has just clocked 20,000 on a 2002 plate

Osem 16-11-2017 19:44

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Originally Posted by blackthorn (Post 35925301)
I`m not far behind you, my little car has just clocked 20,000 on a 2002 plate

:tu:


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