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Osem 16-10-2017 10:47

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Bull bar or just bull? :D

papa smurf 16-10-2017 11:09

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35920319)
Bull bar or just bull? :D

you have to keep them in their place , the very bottom of the food chain. Rodents must be kept in check .

Sirius 16-10-2017 11:18

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35920320)
you have to keep them in their place , the very bottom of the food chain. Rodents must be kept in check .

Well cyclists regularly disrupt traffic flow by jumping red lights and disrupting pedestrians by riding on the footpath. I see it every single day in Manchester city center. As we now have cameras in the vans i might start showing video's to back up my claim :)

papa smurf 16-10-2017 11:32

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35920321)
Well cyclists regularly disrupt traffic flow by jumping red lights and disrupting pedestrians by riding on the footpath. I see it every single day in Manchester city center. As we now have cameras in the vans i might start showing video's to back up my claim :)

camera in your van :shocked: that must make running them off the road difficult ;)

Osem 16-10-2017 11:50

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35920321)
Well cyclists regularly disrupt traffic flow by jumping red lights and disrupting pedestrians by riding on the footpath. I see it every single day in Manchester city center. As we now have cameras in the vans i might start showing video's to back up my claim :)

Yes, this is the sort of evidence which is going to lead to more idiot cyclists being convicted and being held accountable for their own stupidity. They've been getting away with it for too long but more of them will be involved in accidents in which they're hurt and increasingly independent dashcam footage is going to prove who was really at fault. It's slowly going to dawn on these people that the days when they could get away with virtually anything are fast coming to an end but of course there'll always be those who'll have to learn the hard way and are going to wind up on the wrong end of both criminal and civil actions.

Sirius 16-10-2017 12:00

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35920323)
camera in your van :shocked: that must make running them off the road difficult ;)

:)

Kursk 16-10-2017 14:36

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My oh my you girls are having fun :D.

Doesn't change the fact that a major project with a stated main objective of encouraging cycling, which as far as I can tell, does nothing of the sort. But then, that's the uncomfortable fact you're trying to drown out of the discussion.

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MERSEY GATEWAY OBJECTIVES

The main objectives of the project are to;
  • relieve the congested Silver Jubilee Bridge, thereby removing the constraint on local and regional development and better provide for local transport needs,
  • apply minimum toll and road user charges to both the Mersey Gateway Bridge and the SJB consistent with the level required to satisfy the affordability constraints,
  • improve accessibility in order to maximise local development and regional economic growth opportunities,
  • improve local air quality and enhance the general urban environment,
  • improve public transport links across the River Mersey,
  • encourage the increased use of cycling and walking, and
  • restore effective network resilience for road transport across the River Mersey.

You'll all be in electric cars soon or on bikes. Or on electric bikes.

This will mean the lardy lazy amongst you will be housebound which is the safest place for you.

Uncle Peter 16-10-2017 17:05

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35920305)
So, despite it being a stated 'main objective' to encourage increased cycling and walking, there is no provision to achieve this within the constructed new bridge?

No there isn't because there are no foot or cycle routes on the approaches to the new bridge. There are "no cycles/pedestrian" signs on all of the expressways feeding the bridge and signs on the bridge itself.

The old (Silver Jubilee) bridge is being refurbished to accommodate local road traffic, dedicated cycle path and pedestrian footpath. While this is now closed to vehicles during the refurbishment it is still open to pedestrians and cycles.

When it re-opens fully the bridge will be tolled for motor vehicles and free for pedestrians and bicycles.

Kursk 16-10-2017 20:41

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Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35920370)
No there isn't because there are no foot or cycle routes on the approaches to the new bridge. There are "no cycles/pedestrian" signs on all of the expressways feeding the bridge and signs on the bridge itself.

The old (Silver Jubilee) bridge is being refurbished to accommodate local road traffic, dedicated cycle path and pedestrian footpath. While this is now closed to vehicles during the refurbishment it is still open to pedestrians and cycles.

When it re-opens fully the bridge will be tolled for motor vehicles and free for pedestrians and bicycles.

Ok thanks. It seems a little bit disingenuous to me to cite the encouragement of cycling as a main objective of the Mersey Gateway when really it means cyclists and pedestrians can use the Silver Jubilee bridge only.

All road configurations can be changed though; before long the new bridge will be a cycle super highway :).

007stuart 16-10-2017 20:43

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http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news...emony-13765625

Things are getting desperate when cyclists need the church to give them protection.

Kursk 16-10-2017 20:49

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Originally Posted by 007stuart (Post 35920390)
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news...emony-13765625

Things are getting desperate when cyclists need the church to give them protection.

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Rev McLachlan said there were many environmental benefits to go with the spiritual boons of cycling, and agreed that Jesus would have probably ridden a bicycle had the technology been available to him.
Amen.

Uncle Peter 16-10-2017 22:08

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35920388)
Ok thanks. It seems a little bit disingenuous to me to cite the encouragement of cycling as a main objective of the Mersey Gateway when really it means cyclists and pedestrians can use the Silver Jubilee bridge only.

All road configurations can be changed though; before long the new bridge will be a cycle super highway :).

It makes sense because the new bridge primarily services traffic travelling from the M56 heading towards Liverpool and environs. It's a fast link via expressway (60MPH up to national speed limit) avoiding the old bridge which is knackered. There's no route via that bridge that wouldn't be served better by heading over the SJB.

The local route over the Silver Jubilee Bridge allows people from the South end of Widnes for example to cycle or walk across to Runcorn station in order to pick up the West Coast Mainline.

Kursk 17-10-2017 00:34

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Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35920399)
It makes sense because the new bridge primarily services traffic travelling from the M56 heading towards Liverpool and environs. It's a fast link via expressway (60MPH up to national speed limit) avoiding the old bridge which is knackered. There's no route via that bridge that wouldn't be served better by heading over the SJB.

The local route over the Silver Jubilee Bridge allows people from the South end of Widnes for example to cycle or walk across to Runcorn station in order to pick up the West Coast Mainline.

So why was that bloke cycling over the new bridge last Saturday? Perhaps, as a contributor to the cost he feels all users could have been accommodated. I don't know the area.

pip08456 17-10-2017 07:22

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35920412)
So why was that bloke cycling over the new bridge last Saturday? Perhaps, as a contributor to the cost he feels all users could have been accommodated. I don't know the area.

Because he is an idiot!

papa smurf 17-10-2017 09:17

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35920416)
Because he is an idiot!

excellent analysis precise and straight to the point :tu:


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