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denphone 07-03-2012 15:26

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Yes its a very shocking and very depressing sight to see this.

colin25 07-03-2012 18:57

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I don't see it as depressing.

If you set out to do something dodgy (players contracts etc), which they seem to say has been going on for years (without league knowing about it), and you try and play games with the taxman...and get caught...you pay the price

Can't stand the heat? Get out of the kitchen

I've said for years that football was paying silly money, and it had to catch someone out...if it happens to be Rangers..so be it. I'd say the same it it was my club

Alan Fry 08-03-2012 13:43

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35395057)
I don't see it as depressing.

If you set out to do something dodgy (players contracts etc), which they seem to say has been going on for years (without league knowing about it), and you try and play games with the taxman...and get caught...you pay the price

Can't stand the heat? Get out of the kitchen

I've said for years that football was paying silly money, and it had to catch someone out...if it happens to be Rangers..so be it. I'd say the same it it was my club

Lord Sugar said that to stop the tolarence of footballs debt problems, it would take a major club to shut down, will this be case?

denphone 08-03-2012 17:48

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35395492)
Lord Sugar said that to stop the tolarence of footballs debt problems, it would take a major club to shut down, will this be case?

Well we shall see Alan.

colin25 08-03-2012 18:07

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35395771)
Well we shall see Alan.

I think you should call him Lord Sugar :D (not Lord Fry)

Alan Fry 08-03-2012 22:11

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35395798)
I think you should call him Lord Sugar :D (not Lord Fry)

He said it in his latest book

Derek 10-03-2012 17:50

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35395492)
Lord Sugar said that to stop the tolarence of footballs debt problems, it would take a major club to shut down, will this be case?

No. Rangers debt problems were never that bad until the EBT thing reared its head. They had an amount well under their annual turnover (unlike say Hearts...) which was slowly being reduced. Having banks removing facilities due to the ongoing tax issues and a quite possibly crooked new owner who scammed the club from a previous owner didn't help issues.

IF the tribunal goes against Rangers then a number of other teams are in line for a kicking from the taxman that makes Rangers £49 million look like spare change.

Alan Fry 12-03-2012 10:24

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35397157)
No. Rangers debt problems were never that bad until the EBT thing reared its head. They had an amount well under their annual turnover (unlike say Hearts...) which was slowly being reduced. Having banks removing facilities due to the ongoing tax issues and a quite possibly crooked new owner who scammed the club from a previous owner didn't help issues.

IF the tribunal goes against Rangers then a number of other teams are in line for a kicking from the taxman that makes Rangers £49 million look like spare change.

Maybe that what it will have to take to fix footballs financial problems?

Arthurgray50@blu 12-03-2012 10:45

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At one time Scottish football was a big thing, you had some great clubs Aberdeen, Motherwell etc, but for some unknown reason everything seems to go around Rangers and Celtic.

What has to happen is to streamline the way Scottish football runs, we know that when there is bad weather in Scotland, loads of games get postponed and they lose money ie paying wages etc. Why don't they break the season up, so they don't play in the winter months.

With the financial problems at Rangers l blame two sets of people - one the clubs directors for allowing it to happen, and the largest is the inland revenue.

Scottish Football needs finance, but they won't get it from television, buts clubs could always get all weather pitches - but that costs money.

Chris 12-03-2012 10:46

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So, a man walks into a cafe in Sauchiehall Street and asks, "What's soup of the day pal?", to which the waiter replies, "That would be the Rangers Soup."

The man asks, "What kind of soup is that?"

"Administrone," the waiter replies.

Da-dum-tishhh!

Pog66 12-03-2012 11:02

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35397873)
What has to happen is to streamline the way Scottish football runs, we know that when there is bad weather in Scotland, loads of games get postponed and they lose money ie paying wages etc. Why don't they break the season up, so they don't play in the winter months.

If I recall SCottish football did have a winter break for a few seasons several years ago - but due to unpredictable weather and mild winters they sat round twiddling thumbs during mild Jan / Feb & having games postponed when they reconvened Feb /Mar

Arthurgray50@blu 12-03-2012 11:06

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The only other solution would be all weather pitches, but then clubs in the lower division would not be able to afford them.

Each game l watch of Scottish football, the grounds are half empty, so there must be another reason - l don't want to walk down the road of people out of work who cannot afford the prices to get into the grounds.

I am a big fan of Scottie football, so maybe a Tv company can come along and show the games worldwide and get the profits from adverts.

Alan Fry 12-03-2012 12:39

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35397884)
The only other solution would be all weather pitches, but then clubs in the lower division would not be able to afford them.

Each game l watch of Scottish football, the grounds are half empty, so there must be another reason - l don't want to walk down the road of people out of work who cannot afford the prices to get into the grounds.

I am a big fan of Scottie football, so maybe a Tv company can come along and show the games worldwide and get the profits from adverts.

Fans all across the world only want to watch the Big European clubs, but Irish and Scottish fans outside Scotland might be interested

colin25 12-03-2012 19:02

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I wouldn't pay to watch.

I don't see it being inland revenues fault...they shouldn't spend what they don't have.

i remember rangers paying silly money for tore andre flo...and he was dire

The problem is the escalating wages, transfer fees. It is a vicious circle..then add agents..and you have a recipe for disaster

Alan Fry 13-03-2012 09:51

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35398114)
I wouldn't pay to watch.

I don't see it being inland revenues fault...they shouldn't spend what they don't have.

i remember rangers paying silly money for tore andre flo...and he was dire

The problem is the escalating wages, transfer fees. It is a vicious circle..then add agents..and you have a recipe for disaster

So you are not keen on BSkyB and ESPN currently hold the rights to the SPL


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