Do you use Kodi?
 

With Kodi boxes in the news at the moment I thought I would ask the question whether you guys use Kodi as part of your viewing habits and on which devices?

I now use it all the time either on Amazon Fire Sticks or when travelling on my tablet.

I use it so much I am thinking of ditching Netflix and dropping Virgin TV.

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I've been using it instead of torrents. For live stuff I think it's pants but box sets are good

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This. Except for live stuff I use P2P add-ons. More or less for foreign broadcasters using premier league games. Just easier to get HD streams via P2P.

I know I'm guilty but I don't feel it. I sub Sky right through for Sky sports and BT sports but find myself using Kodi for American TV shows rather than waiting for it to appear ridiculously late sometimes for UK broadcast.

Other subs are Netflix, Prime and Spotify. Games I just pay for outright, I used to try before you buy with torrents many moons ago but when I moved into high paying work I just started buying them legitimately and since steam started offering refunds I have nothing to lose.

All in all, various subs and Kodi have wiped out my usage of torrents except for the odd P2P stream.

Something will give soon if people start having the mindset they should cancel subs and solely use something like Kodi. Whether they'll lower sub prices across the board or penalise existing customers, it could be good or bad. So I have no sympathy for anyone using this to watch UK broadcasts. As for foreign, my viewership is money they couldn't possibly lose as I can't subscribe to it, I'm still guilty ofc.

I used to sub something called PLP, an Asian dedicated site that showed premier league games until it became a VPN faf on. Not sure if it was legal or not.

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I use it on my Firestick, to play the TV programmes I download onto my local network.

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I was told about it but am wary of VM/HMG's policy on it.

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Don't think there is anything to worry about, as it stands Kodi is perfectly legal, not sure if VM will be able to tell how I use it like they can do with torrents.

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Why would virgin care, unless a court tells them to care

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Kodi is perfectly legal. Using it to access copyrighted material and subscription based services is not, don't confuse the two. As it stands however, the UK courts are only pursuing P2P torrenting. As it stands with single server streaming, it tends to be the host that is pursued and punished, as I've said though, this will change thanks to Kodi, eventually they'll chase those that are getting sub based services for free.

VM and any other ISP at any point could very easily see what you're watching. What you're doing on Kodi is literally no different than watching the same stream on the hosted site itself. All Kodi is doing is opening the link and playing it in its own video client.

As above, these attitudes will eventually push the boat one way or another and some form of action will eventually come.

Kodi will be responsible for a crack down on single server streaming. It's deluded to believe Sky and Virgin will just sit on their arse whilst people cancel their subs and rip their content off for free. It'll come if people keep up this mindset

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Because the majority of boxes in use in the UK, let's be fair here are being used to access VM and Sky's subscription based content - those using Kodi to watch live TV. Eventually something will give.

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Right now, single server streaming isn't a priority for anyone. It's still a game of P2P sharing.

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I assume the OP is alluding to the "fully loaded" addons you can install in Kodi, rather than Kodi itself.

Someone local to us has been flogging Amazon sticks with Kodi plus extras preinstalled. Suffice it to say the local chavs are not buying them to facilitate local network streaming of their own legally owned content.

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to be honest, watching 'live tv' on Kodi is actually a right pain in the ass.

It is however just fine for watching Movies & TV Series, but Live TV is always a bit of a holy grail - unless of course you subscribe to something like IPTV, but then you may just as well subscribe to Sky/Virgin as its a lot less hassle.

Don't believe me, grab something like iVue TV Guide and then assign channels to it, you'll soon find out that add-ons are notoriously unreliable, what works on Tuesday, might work on Thursday, and definitely won't on Friday.

I'd be extremely surprised if more than a few % of Kodi users are watching Live TV in any meaningful way.

I downgraded my Virgin to Freeview channels only but as I don't really watch much in the way of Live TV it wasn't difficult.

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I mainly use Kodi for TV series and movies, i have tested out live TV which is hit and miss like you say but it can work.

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I don't use Kodi or watch TV or have a TV license.

As a software developer though, I do find the technology insteresting, however.

An interesting future question (in general) would be: "Who uses VM broadband to watch Sky Q?" (instead of a dish)

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I use to own a tv not any more it was a 56 inch plasma had it for about 6 years and the last 4 years of those 6 i think i turned it on about 5 times as the programmes were just bs, when i moved house it was the vm engineer that introduced me to xbmc(now kodi) i mainly use it to watch old classic tv and films, have not seen a live transmission in about 6 years any way besides that i am very seldom in my house and when i am it i usually to sleep as i am either @ work or in my local refreshment establishment having a cocktail or 2 and throwing darts :D:D

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Depends on the source and the addon.

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I'm running the OpenElec distro on a Raspberry Pi 3B. There's a modicum of technical nouse required to set it up as opposed to buying a hacked Firestick from some spiv down the pub but it's nice and slick and easy to update once installed.

It's mainly used to watch the odd, old tv show and the NASCAR when I can get a decent source that is although haven't tried any of the P2P add-ons yet (yes it is configured with and auto-starts with VPN up)

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The best sources for live sports are P2P and because they're live sports, it's something that isn't really being watched on the P2P as of yet. It's all I generally use for Premier League foreign broadcasts.

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But you don't use P2P for live broadcasts.

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So given the context and the reply I made to a previous post I think it was evidently clear I was referring to me using P2P for foreign premier league broadcasts. The except is merely an exception in difference.



Thread related: Mentioned earlier in the thread I used to use a site named PLP for streaming football. These are becoming ever popular for use on Kodi, Sports Donkey to name one. Showing English and Foreign networks, From Sky Sports UK to Sport Club Serbia. They're charging sub fee's of £50 but are based offshore (Good ole Piratebay run around all over again) I can imagine there'd be serious implications of monetising someone's IP. Wiziwig were pursued in Spain I think.

E.G, ripped from their website:

Locale: Gibraltar. Some of these are actually legal surprisingly and they're legally licensed to broadcast streams, they're not licenced to broadcast them back to the UK however. PLP had the minimum level of security to comply with their agreement, ensuring all incoming IP's were from Asia, which going back to what I mentioned, you needed a VPN eventually to access it. This one appears to just be selling subs worldwide.

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Yes I have Kodi, just use it for box sets, live tv is crap I still have a XL VM package with no intention to get rid. Kodi is good but a long way off a reliable source

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I am thinking of using Kodi at some point but either need to by a fire stick or get a wireless adapter for my raspberry pi

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I will probably install it at some point, so I can rip my DVD library and serve it to our Fire stick rather than keep mucking about with discs all the time (which the kids just leave all over the floor).

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I highly recommend it, i bought 2 Firesticks on Black Friday and it is pretty straight forward to install Kodi on it after enabling the developer options.

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We use an Android box with Kodi installed in the bedroom mainly for boxsets with the odd movie here and there, no TV point in there, so it was the quickest and cheapest solution for us.

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Kodi's perfect for that.

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That's good, but I can suggest another solution that's cheaper and doesn't involve Kodi
Rip your DVD's, stick them on your computer

Get something like WIFI PC File Explorer Pro

Install it on your pc & your android phone

Now we have the ability to read files from your computer via your mobile phone

Get as many Chromecasts as you have TV's (I use 5)

Install Allcast or similar on your phone

I know it sounds a bit cumbersome, but it's not.

You now have the ability to stream any file on your PC (including your Ripped DVDs) to any TV in your House. Which is nice because if you go the Kodi android box/Firestick route, it's one device per TV, this way you can distribute to your entire house, using the PC as a media server, the chromecast as the receiver and the phone as a remote control.

Best of all, there's no 'dubious legality' issues.

I also have Kodi installed on my PC & set top box as well :D

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You can do all that on a Firestick too if i am not mistaken using Plex?

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Yep.

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possibly, but you would need a firestick for each TV plus the associated remote etc, the chromecast(s) with phone as remote is a bit more elegant, but each to their own.

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Personally for me a dedicated remote in each room with a Firestick is easier than having to remember to take your phone from room to room with you as well as the option to install Kodi and Plex is a better option, but as you say each to their own. :)

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I have Kodi on my HTPC, but I have none of the addons that allow people to watch subscription stuff illegally. It's all crap anyway, why break the law for BS programmes?

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You're the first person that I have seen admitting to using Kodi legally, and the content I watch is not crap it is better quality than regular HD TV.

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I can remember taking apart an Xbox 1 to install a quieter fan so I could watch DVDs and ripped mpegs in peace using XBMC :)

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Does anyone know if Kodi and Plex can be installed on the new Amazon Fire TV stick?

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Kodi definitely can and i can't see any reason why Plex wouldn't too.

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Bit of a dilemma here, i am looking to replace 1 of my Amazon Fire sticks with another device that is capable of running Kodi as well as Amazon Prime.

Currently thinking of getting the latest Amazon Fire TV box which i can currently side load Kodi on to but wondering if i should go for a normal Kodi Android box.

Anyone got any thoughts on this i as think i am probably going for the Fire TV for its quality as well as the nice remote?

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Still wondering whether to get the 4K Amazon box purely to run Kodi now i have a great 4K TV or get the best dedicated Android box for around £50, my worry is Amazon may block the installation on a side loaded Kodi.

What do you Kodi guys think?

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I use both on my Fire TV stick.

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Thanks, not used Plex since i started streaming with Kodi though.

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I use Kodi purely for playing content that is on my NAS. It used to be DVD's I ripped myself, along with occasional downloads, so I could browse through the interface and not worry about disks. Then at one point I decided I did not want to fund big media's lawyers and all the things that comes with that, so stopped buying media. Tried sports addons a couple of times otherwise don't use any video addons except iPlayer. Been using Kodi and it's predecessor's since around 2002 or 2003. Not a new fad here :)