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Osem 02-10-2017 18:06
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I reckon it's more likely that he was someone with a screw loose but time will reveal all. Of course some would say you'd have to have a lot of screws loose to be influenced by IS.

pip08456 02-10-2017 18:13
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35918794)
Sorry but I fed up of these stories from the US overtaking our radio/TV programs.

I'll explain

:rant:I have a soon to be ex-friend on facebook, who says Guns protect againts guns. I'm going to say to her, so the 500+ people who where killed/shot at are to blame as they weren't armed to protect themselves then?

Assult rifles have one and only one purpose, and that is to kill, and that is on a battlefield, and has no place for non-military purpose.

Why isn't it being treated as a terrorist attack, is it beacuse he is white?0

We need to ban any NRA members from entry into the UK and treat the NRA as a terrorist group.

I would fell safer walking in NK with a US flag on my back with death to Kim, than going to the US ATM.

:rant:
Really?

http://www.nra.org.uk/

Hom3r 02-10-2017 18:15
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Well terrorism is defined as

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the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
What the reason you cant make anymore of a political statement than shooting battlefield weaopns at people.

Osem 02-10-2017 18:17
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35918797)
Just imagine how many American lives wouldn't have been lost if the US version had been subject to the same rules as their UK namesake.

denphone 02-10-2017 18:21
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35918795)
To be a terrorist attack it would have to have had some sort of ideological component, either political or religious, we don’t know his motivations yet.
Hopefully a lot more will be revealed in the coming days about his motivations.

Hom3r 02-10-2017 18:46
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some people are saying he recently converted to Islam.:rolleyes:

I guess this is from NRA nuts.

pip08456 02-10-2017 18:52
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35918798)
Well terrorism is defined as



What the reason you cant make anymore of a political statement than shooting battlefield weaopns at people.

Actually in Nevada according to NRS 202.4415 "Acts of terrorism" defined.

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1. "Act of terrorism" means any act that involves the use or attempted use of sabotage,coercion or violence which is intended to:
(a) Case great bodily harm or death to the general population; or
(b) Cause substantial detruction, contamination or impairment of;
(1) Any building or infrastructure, communications, transportaion, utilities or services; or
(2) Any natural resource or the environment.
2. As used in this section, "coercion" does not include an act of civil disobedience.

Russ 02-10-2017 19:01
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35918803)
some people are saying he recently converted to Islam.:rolleyes:
Some fantastic early tweets from lefty sources almost taking joy in describing him as a "white Christian terrorist".

These tweets have quietly started to disappear....

Damien 02-10-2017 19:15
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35918806)
Some fantastic early tweets from lefty sources almost taking joy in describing him as a "white Christian terrorist".

These tweets have quietly started to disappear....
I can find a whole bunch of righty sources that have labelled him a Bernie-Bro, Democrat, who hated 'rednecks' so shot up a country musical festivals. One that have said he was a member of ANTIFA and others which labelled the wrong man as the shooter and piled onto his facebook. This is way after the attack.

People on the internet are trolls.

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35918798)
Well terrorism is defined as



What the reason you cant make anymore of a political statement than shooting battlefield weaopns at people.
Why is a political statement? The school shootings aren't labelled as such.

We just have to wait and see what, if any, reason he had.

denphone 03-10-2017 04:54
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35918761)
Correction, he had 10 rifles. TEN! Absolute crazy.
He had even a bigger arsenal then that.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...uns-explosives

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...b00d657809d16e

TheDaddy 03-10-2017 06:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35918806)
Some fantastic early tweets from lefty sources almost taking joy in describing him as a "white Christian terrorist".

These tweets have quietly started to disappear....
Classy, politically correct point scoring whilst they're still clearing the bodies of the street, shame it's just their tweets that disappeared quietly and not them

Dude111 03-10-2017 07:21
I tell ya GUNS should not be so easily obtainable!!!

nomadking 03-10-2017 07:28
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He was a multimillionaire, so a little matter of gun laws wouldn't have stopped him.

They can't un-invent guns so they will still be out there.

A key difference with the UK is that we have never really had that much of a gun culture in the past. Evidence of that is that the UK is one of the few countries where Police officers don't routinely have firearms.

Using the label of "Terrorism" is complete and utter ... nonsense. Terrorism is more about the threat of FUTURE violence, if a particular aim isn't followed. A one-off "Terrorist" act without a shared aim would be meaningless. The only "Terrorist" aim he could have had is the introduction of new gun laws. How would the anti-gun lobby react to that?

ianch99 03-10-2017 09:28
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Mick's point on why assault rifles (or any rapid fire variant) are not banned is the real issue here. Banning all guns is bridge too far for enough Americans that make or influence policy but there cannot be any rational defence of wanting to own such weapons.

What would be educational is a live televised Senate/Congressional hearing where the NRA lobbyists and NRA-supporting Senators & Congressmen are shown first hand footage of their constituents being killed & maimed and then being asked to justify the need for such weapons.

The relatives of the dead should also be invited to attend ..

Also, a point to ponder:

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Number of Americans killed on battlefields in all wars in history:

1,396,733

Killed by firearms in the US since 1968:

1,516,863

(NYT)

nomadking 03-10-2017 09:46
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Leaving out personal attacks and accidents, I wonder how many of the killers would be described as Democrats and how many as Republicans?


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