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Re: US: Violent clashes Charlottesville

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35922860)

Including the power to enslave, torture, and kill people, sell the children and rape the women just because of the colour if their skin?

I'll take it from that it was documented historical fact then and iirc we were talking about their right to leave the union, it's odd, first of all you attack the author of an opinion piece whilst ignoring the said documented historical fact within and now you're moving the goalposts here as well.

Re: US: Violent clashes Charlottesville

So much for the saying... The Good Old Days.

Re: US: Violent clashes Charlottesville

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35922864)

Not sure how the goalposts are being moved when we were discussing Secession, and Virginia’s Ordinance of Secession specifically mentions slavery.

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The people of Virginia, in their ratification of the Constitution of the United States of America, adopted by them in Convention, on the 25th day of June, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eight-eight, having declared that the powers granted them under the said Constitution were derived from the people of the United States, and might be resumed whensoever the same should be perverted to their injury and oppression, and the Federal Government having perverted said powers, not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern slaveholding States.

http://www.wvculture.org/history/sta...secession.html

Re: US: Violent clashes Charlottesville

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35923001)

Not sure how the goalposts are being moved when we were discussing Secession, and Virginia’s Ordinance of Secession specifically mentions slavery.

http://www.wvculture.org/history/sta...secession.html

Because we were talking about if they had the right of secession at all and all the slurs of being a traitor and rebelling etc when they had more right to leave the union than Catalonia does to leave Spain, oops there I go again comparing the modern day to two hundred years ago

Re: US: Violent clashes Charlottesville

Never heard about this at the time but Ulysses S Grant's statue in San Francisco was pulled down by a mob a couple of years back apparently, wtf goes through some people's minds, so fecking self righteous and without a shred of historical awareness