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Kymmy 27-08-2009 12:31
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Two of them stories go back to 2002 :rolleyes: Also I'm sure that the reports on knife crime that outweigh the countryside killers reports by a few thousand percent doesn;t mean that every child is a knife weilding maniac..

Does make me laugh when people bring up news reports to prove a theory when it's obvious that the news only reports a small percentage of a one sided viewpoint :D

dilli-theclaw 27-08-2009 12:33
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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34862058)
Two of them stories go back to 2002 :rolleyes: Also I'm sure that the reports on knife crime that outweigh the countryside killers reports by a few thousand percent doesn;t mean that every child is a knife weilding maniac..

Does make me laugh when people bring up news reports to prove a theory when it's obvious that the news only reports a small percentage of a one sided viewpoint :D
I'm a country person, but all I want to kill are mutant space zombies on my computer. And Triffids, but I'm not sure if that counts.

STONEISLAND 27-08-2009 12:35
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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34862058)
Two of them stories go back to 2002 :rolleyes: Also I'm sure that the reports on knife crime that outweigh the countryside killers reports by a few thousand percent doesn;t mean that every child is a knife weilding maniac..

Does make me laugh when people bring up news reports to prove a theory when it's obvious that the news only reports a small percentage of a one sided viewpoint :D
It was a tongue in cheek comment. :PP:

Maggy 27-08-2009 12:41
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I was brought up in the city, I have no affection for fox hunting. It is a way of life and a class apart from my lifestyle.

But if people want to chase after fox's on horseback with dogs then I don't see the issue.

People are happy to have fox's shot, poisoned etc.

It's a non-issue, I'm pretty sure that if you asked most people they couldn't give a toss.

What I am against is this country's obsession with banning things, or offending people. There's too many twisted morals in this country.
My point is this,fox hunting is an extremely inefficient method for controlling foxes and ergo is therefore not really about controlling foxes but is about having fun.:)

Personally if people want to go fox hunting in red coats I see no reason to interfere.I saw no reason to ban the hunts because the percentage of foxes killed was minimal.I thought that those who voted against it did so for reasons of class or because they were totally fluffy about foxes,refusing to see them as vermin because they were not in anyway realistic about the plight of foxes as predators in the food chain that are in danger of over population in certain areas.

TheDaddy 27-08-2009 12:58
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 34861950)
I was brought up in the city, I have no affection for fox hunting. It is a way of life and a class apart from my lifestyle.

But if people want to chase after fox's on horseback with dogs then I don't see the issue.

People are happy to have fox's shot, poisoned etc.

It's a non-issue, I'm pretty sure that if you asked most people they couldn't give a toss.

What I am against is this country's obsession with banning things, or offending people. There's too many twisted morals in this country.
Yep pretty much my thoughts on rural hunting, what is an issue imo is the amount of time Parliment has wasted over the years on this subject, is this country so perfect that our MP's have over 700 hours time free to debate it in the chamber and now after finally making a decision some of them seemingly want to put it back on the agenda, madness :mad:

Pierre 27-08-2009 13:11
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34862072)
My point is this,fox hunting is an extremely inefficient method for controlling foxes and ergo is therefore not really about controlling foxes but is about having fun.:)

Personally if people want to go fox hunting in red coats I see no reason to interfere.I saw no reason to ban the hunts because the percentage of foxes killed was minimal.I thought that those who voted against it did so for reasons of class or because they were totally fluffy about foxes,refusing to see them as vermin because they were not in anyway realistic about the plight of foxes as predators in the food chain that are in danger of over population in certain areas.
Thanks for the clarification, and I agree with you entirely

Arthurgray50@blu 27-08-2009 18:48
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I said this at the time the ban came in, I live in London, but to me the countryside is better known to tha farmer, so therefore they should be allowed to shoot foxes that are on the land to protect livestock, and also fox hunts has been part of country life for decades - and l don't live anywhere near the countryside.

Julian 27-08-2009 20:05
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Originally Posted by bringerofnoise (Post 34861806)

There is absolutly no way you can convince me that hunting them with dogs is the right way to control fox population, infact i feel a little feeling inside when i see them that just makes me happy (bit of a hippy maybe) maybe farmers should just put more research into protecting their livestock rather than killing them (i now what i said above) if you cannot protect your livestock from an animal that is intellectually inferior to you maybe you should just give up tbh.
How can you say that when a famous man once said
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More cunning than a fox who's been made professor of cunning at Cunning University.
:)

Hugh 27-08-2009 20:44
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Not as cunning as
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a fox who's just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University?
;)

Arthurgray50@blu 27-08-2009 21:48
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Fox hunting goes back centuries, and the countryside belongs to the farmers so leave it up to them.

Hugh 27-08-2009 22:09
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34862479)
Fox hunting goes back centuries, and the countryside belongs to the farmers so leave it up to them.
Mmmmmmm - interesting concept; let's deconstruct it, shall we?

Land-owning and having serfs goes back centuries, and the countryside belongs to the landed gentry, so leave it up to them.

Plague, rickets, high percentages of children dying under the age of five goes back for centuries, so let's continue that tradition.

Slavery, poorhouses, lack of proper sanitation, etc, etc, yaddy yaddy yah.

I am not bothered about fox hunting, but I am bothered about very poorly thought out propositions.;)

And on the point of foxy-loxy, an (imho) amusing advert - Auchtermuchty

Arthurgray50@blu 27-08-2009 22:20
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I used to work for a company that delivered to many addresses in the countryside, l have seen foxes and what they do, Farmers, wether they are snooty people or not, have a duty to protect there animals, as it is there livelyhood. In regards to fox hunts l had to face a blockaide of silly people blocking a fox hunt, in Ledbury, Glos, and was given police protection to get through, I cannot believe that people will get so heated up about a vermin problem that needs to be cut, foxes give a nasty bite.

martyh 27-08-2009 22:23
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Interesting that your concern for animal welfare doesn't extend to rats.

wel done TheDaddy for reading half a post and choosing to ignore the rest
you really should try to understand the feeling behind someones written word .
As i said in my post ,i will repeat for Daddy's sake, if foxs's are such a pest ,i don't doubt that they are ,then a more efficient and humane way of killing them should be used


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I wonder how many other people against hunting are more concerned with class discrimination than the actual foxes, I seem to remember quite a few Labour MP's wooping for joy that ''the toffs were taken down a peg'' on the night it was banned.

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I quite agree far better to shoot it, don't want it escaping after all.

TheDaddy 27-08-2009 23:02
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wel done TheDaddy for reading half a post and choosing to ignore the rest
you really should try to understand the feeling behind someones written word .
As i said in my post ,i will repeat for Daddy's sake, if foxs's are such a pest ,i don't doubt that they are ,then a more efficient and humane way of killing them should be used
No need to repeat yourself we all understood first time, you think foxes are a pest and should be killed humanely but at the same time your humanity doesn't extend to rats, which I think is interesting, certainly more interesting than the rest of your origional post.

Maggy 27-08-2009 23:24
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Depends on the rat surely?

Lew's rats are clean and safe to handle.Sewer rats and the usual wild ones are a source of disease and as such are vermin especially at the rate that they breed in the wild.


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