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denphone 07-09-2012 15:57
World Cup 2014
 
With the World Cup Qualifying starting today this is a thread to discuss all things in regards to the World Cup qualification campaign.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19522138

denphone 07-09-2012 18:42
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
England team to face Moldova: Hart, Johnson, Baines, Gerrard, Lescott, Terry, Milner, Lampard, Defoe, Cleverley, Oxlade Chamberlain.

thenry 07-09-2012 19:05
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
will the formation be?

Hart
Johnson, Terry, Lescott, Baines,
Gerrard, Lampard, Cleverley,
Oxlade Chamberlain, Defoe, Milner

denphone 07-09-2012 19:50
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35471856)
will the formation be?

Hart
Johnson, Terry, Lescott, Baines,
Gerrard, Lampard, Cleverley,
Oxlade Chamberlain, Defoe, Milner
Not much pace in midfield with that formation.

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Just the start we wanted.:cleader:

denphone 08-09-2012 05:17
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
England's 2014 World Cup qualifying campaign opened in emphatic fashion as Moldova were outclassed 5-0 in Chisinau.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19460608

Kymmy 08-09-2012 08:58
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Moldova, San Marino and other small nations shouldn't be in the world cup, instead they should have their own small nations cup or similar where they play against places like Fiji, Samoa and anywhere else with a sub-5million population.

Russ 08-09-2012 09:09
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
.....really..?

Kymmy 08-09-2012 09:14
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Have they ever got through to the finals in the last world/euro cups It must be demoralising for them to end up 5-0 or more against a team with the media describing them as whipping boys of the group..

Russ 08-09-2012 09:16
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Maybe it spurs us on more? Allows our players to have experience against top international sides? Nobody forces us to enter tournaments.

Kymmy 08-09-2012 09:20
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Yet every tournament they enter they are end up bottom (or near bottom)

It's why we have football leagues so you don't get someone like Barton Rovers playing against MU unless Barton Rovers have proved themselves and gain promotion or get through the first few rounds of the FA cup. As for experience that's what friendlies are for..

Russ 08-09-2012 09:41
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Friendlies aren't guaranteed though. And teams rarely play their best and strongest squad in a friendly. Elitism is rife in certain footballing countries but that doesn't make it right.

LondonRoad 08-09-2012 09:53
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35471962)
Moldova, San Marino and other small nations shouldn't be in the world cup, instead they should have their own small nations cup or similar where they play against places like Fiji, Samoa and anywhere else with a sub-5million population.
... because teams like Uruguay could never win the World Cup ;)

{sub 4 million population}

Kymmy 08-09-2012 10:08
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35471979)
... because teams like Uruguay could never win the World Cup ;)

{sub 4 million population}
I did suggest small nations with a sub 5m pop.. Uruguay has never been a small nation.. Nor was I dictating entry rules.. just that there are certain countries that are lost at the bottom of international football and it would be a chance for them to have a competition on their own level instead of being the "whipping boys"

Russ 08-09-2012 10:20
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Well seeing as none of these 'lost' countries have gotten together to make such a suggestion, perhaps it should be left up to them to decide if that's what they want.

How about a 'deluxe elite' competition only for international sides that have made it to the semi finals more than once? Perhaps they'd prefer a tournament for teams at their level?

Kymmy 08-09-2012 10:27
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35471987)
Well seeing as none of these 'lost' countries have gotten together to make such a suggestion, perhaps it should be left up to them to decide if that's what they want.

How about a 'deluxe elite' competition only for international sides that have made it to the semi finals more than once? Perhaps they'd prefer a tournament for teams at their level?
I'm sure that most of the Conference league teams in the UK wouldn't complain if they were playing against premiership sides even if they lost time and time again.. but the FA doesn't allow it..

Just that last night was a one sided football match and it's the same with most Moldova/San Marino and other small nations teams

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Perhaps maybe a system that only allows teams to enter competitions based on world rankings??

Russ 08-09-2012 10:28
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
If it is an issue for them, and that's an if then it should be those teams who ask for it.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35471989)
Perhaps maybe a system that only allows teams to enter competitions based on world rankings??
Really? Really?! So how do teams go up in the rankings if they're not given the chance to perform against bigger nations?

Kymmy 08-09-2012 10:44
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35471993)
Really? Really?! So how do teams go up in the rankings if they're not given the chance to perform against bigger nations?
You're really, really..in a mood this morning :p:

Losing against a bigger nation doesn't increase their rankings, playing against the lower teams give them a better chance to win and increase rankings, get to a certain point and more competitions are open to them with higher ranked teams.. It's the same with our leagues you start off at the bottom with teams equal to yourself and work your way up as Rangers is just finding out..

[joke]...perhaps it would be a good place for Wales to start ;) [/joke]

Perhaps another approach might be to lose the area restrictions on qualifying instead which could see lower EU teams playing against more equal teams? Just that San Marino ends up in a group with some of the EU's top teams where Fiji/Somoa in the oceanic group have a lot fairer chance as they're playing against local islands.. Just that it's a one sides competition on one side of the planet and totally different on the other..

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35471993)
If it is an issue for them, and that's an if then it should be those teams who ask for it.
The team management or the countries FA won't ask for it as it's money in their pockets, I wonder though if it would be different if you asked the players??

Russ 08-09-2012 10:50
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Wales is what I'm talking about. We went up the rankings during Gary Speed's era and were going in the right direction. Nothing wrong with the systems as it is and if it did need fixing then I'm sure the 'lesser nations' would be the first to speak out.

England for example have only made it to the semis once in 80-odd years whereas other nations get there more regularly. I'm sure if an 'elite' competition was proposed where team that got there more than once were the only one able to qualify you'd have something to say against that.

If it isn't broken (or even acknowledged as broken by those it affects) then it does not need fixing.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35471999)
The team management or the countries FA won't ask for it as it's money in their pockets, I wonder though if it would be different if you asked the players??
Conjecture to back up your theory.

Kymmy 08-09-2012 10:54
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
It wasn't a theory and "wondering" isn't exactly conjecture just a few simple basic viewpoints based on the fact that Moldova and San Marino every four years are constantly put down in the media and basically have minimal chance from the very start of the contest..

The current seeding system doesn't seem to work so how about byes for the top teams and allow the smaller teams to progress..

PS.. Wales being in the top 50 ranking isn't exactly in the same league as Moldova who's 141 having dropped 4 places after playing England

Russ 08-09-2012 11:10
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Where's the incentive for lesser teams in a 'tinpot' (for that's how it would be viewed) tournament?

Kymmy 08-09-2012 11:16
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Yep it probably would but at least they can have a decent chance at winning something..

As for incentive even winning against lower teams can raise your rankings, raise them enough and you have a cross-over point as where they could enter a higher competition..

I never said it was a perfect idea or even workable but I'm sure that some modern day competitions were viewed that way when it first started and possible had similar roots ;)

Watching the match I just felt sorry for the Moldovan team and was shocked at some of the media comments

Russ 08-09-2012 12:00
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35472010)
Yep it probably would but at least they can have a decent chance at winning something..
How kind....

Kymmy 08-09-2012 12:23
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35472023)
How kind....
I'm just that sort of person :D

TheDaddy 08-09-2012 20:44
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35472003)
England for example have only made it to the semis once in 80-odd years whereas other nations get there more regularly. .
Wrong...

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35471981)
I did suggest small nations with a sub 5m pop.. Uruguay has never been a small nation.. Nor was I dictating entry rules.. just that there are certain countries that are lost at the bottom of international football and it would be a chance for them to have a competition on their own level instead of being the "whipping boys"
Countries are getting better though, look at Turkey, Finland and USA not that many years ago.

Russ 08-09-2012 20:47
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35472217)
Wrong...
What, about England? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England...FIFA_World_Cup

danielf 08-09-2012 20:50
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35472219)
I make that one win (1966), and one semi-final (1990)?

TheDaddy 08-09-2012 20:51
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35472219)
Yes, we have played in 2 World Cup semi's, not one

Russ 08-09-2012 20:52
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Well if you're going to win it (albeit with an illegal goal but that's by-the-by) then obviously you would get to the semi-final too. But more teams make it past there more often - that should be an ideal measure of an 'elite' tournament if there was one.

TheDaddy 08-09-2012 21:02
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35472223)
Well if you're going to win it (albeit with an illegal goal but that's by-the-by) then obviously you would get to the semi-final too. But more teams make it past there more often - that should be an ideal measure of an 'elite' tournament if there was one.
Yes so obvious you neglected to mention it, wonder why and ranking based performance would be the ideal measure imo :p: :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19177783

danielf 08-09-2012 21:05
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35472223)
Well if you're going to win it (albeit with an illegal goal but that's by-the-by) then obviously you would get to the semi-final too. But more teams make it past there more often - that should be an ideal measure of an 'elite' tournament if there was one.
By that reasoning, Brazil only made it to three semis. Seems a rather flawed way of looking at things...

Russ 08-09-2012 21:12
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35472228)
By that reasoning, Brazil only made it to three semis. Seems a rather flawed way of looking at things...
Almost as flawed as bringing population in to it.

denphone 11-09-2012 18:52
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
England team to face Ukraine: Hart, G Johnson, Jagielka, Lescott, Baines, Milner, Gerrard, Lampard, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Cleverley, Defoe.

thenry 11-09-2012 19:00
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Jagielka in for Terry otherwise same vs. Moldova

denphone 11-09-2012 20:39
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Oh dear.:(

Jameseh 11-09-2012 20:51
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Was going to have a punt on Ukraine/England HT/FT at 16/1.

Bugger.

Russ 11-09-2012 21:12
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Could be worse, you could have Chris Coleman as a manager.

denphone 11-09-2012 21:13
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35473343)
Could be worse, you could have Chris Coleman as a manager.
No thanks.:nono:

Russ 11-09-2012 21:19
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
I think his ambition was to undo as much of Gary Speed's good work as possible. My biggest worry is that he may feel he hasn't quite completed the task yet.

denphone 11-09-2012 21:21
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
My worry is simply that l don't think Chris Coleman is the right man for the job but then again what do l know.

thenry 11-09-2012 22:30
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
the ref was a joke

denphone 12-09-2012 04:54
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35473375)
the ref was a joke
You can say that again.:td::(

gazzae 12-09-2012 09:17
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35471967)
Have they ever got through to the finals in the last world/euro cups It must be demoralising for them to end up 5-0 or more against a team with the media describing them as whipping boys of the group..
Cough... Northern Ireland smallest country to qualify for more than one World Cup finals, the smallest country to win a World Cup finals match, the smallest country to have scored at a World Cup finals, and the smallest country to have reached the World Cup quarter-finals.

Trinidad and Tobago - smallest country to qualify for the World Cup finals. Sure they didn't score a single goal but if you had offered them the chance to play in the World Cup finals or play in a tournament with smaller teams do you really think they would have chosen the latter?

thenry 12-10-2012 19:25
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
England starting XI vs San Marino: Hart, Walker, Baines, Carrick, Jagielka, Cahill, Walcott, Cleverley, Welbeck, Rooney (C), Oxlade-Chamberlain
Subs: Cole, Ruddy, Lescott, Shawcross, Milner, Shelvey, A Johnson, Lennon, Carroll, Defoe, Forster

attacking line up :tu:

denphone 12-10-2012 20:07
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
What a shocking challenge by the San Marino goalkeeper and he does not even get a booking.:td::(

Dave42 12-10-2012 20:24
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35484229)
England starting XI vs San Marino: Hart, Walker, Baines, Carrick, Jagielka, Cahill, Walcott, Cleverley, Welbeck, Rooney (C), Oxlade-Chamberlain
Subs: Cole, Ruddy, Lescott, Shawcross, Milner, Shelvey, A Johnson, Lennon, Carroll, Defoe, Forster

attacking line up :tu:
22 mins still 0-0 against worst team in world shocking

denphone 12-10-2012 20:34
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35484255)
22 mins still 0-0 against worst team in world shocking
Utterly pathetic so far and it does not bode well for future matches in my mind.

thenry 12-10-2012 20:36
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
clear peno. 1 nil. the goals should come now

denphone 12-10-2012 20:37
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35484263)
1 nil. the goals should come now
2-0

thenry 12-10-2012 20:38
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
no i know ;)

Dave42 12-10-2012 20:47
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
watching the Scotland game here

denphone 12-10-2012 20:47
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35484266)
no i know ;)
You most certainly do.:)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35484271)
watching the Scotland game here
It looks like Chris Coleman is close to getting his P45.

Dave42 12-10-2012 20:53
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35484272)
You most certainly do.:)

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It looks like Chris Coleman is close to getting his P45.
does not matter who wales manager is Den mate they never ever be a good team not got the players

denphone 12-10-2012 20:55
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35484280)
does not matter who wales manager is Den mate they never ever be a good team not got the players
Well there is at least one player who would be useful to the England team.

Dave42 12-10-2012 20:56
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35484283)
Well there is at least one player who would be useful to the England team.
yes like they had Giggs that would been good for England now only got Bale

thenry 12-10-2012 21:22
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Defoe would suit this game.

denphone 12-10-2012 21:24
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35484300)
Defoe would suit this game.
Yes l have to agree totally but England are obsessed with Rooney all the time and as l say he has not performed well in a England shirt for at least 2 years.

thenry 12-10-2012 21:25
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
I'd take Welbeck off

Dave42 12-10-2012 21:27
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
great dive by bale for penalty

denphone 12-10-2012 21:29
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35484305)
great dive by bale for penalty
And yet nothing is done to crack down on these cheats.:td::(

Dave42 12-10-2012 21:31
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35484309)
And yet nothing is done to crack down on these cheats.:td::(
2-1 wales Bale got 2 yes the diving spoils game all the time in modern day football sadly

denphone 12-10-2012 21:32
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
England 4-0 up now with Rooney and Welbeck both scoring a brace.

thenry 12-10-2012 21:37
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Oxo-Cube :woot:

denphone 12-10-2012 21:39
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
What a scoreline this is Rep of Ireland 1-6 Germany :shocked:

Russ 12-10-2012 21:59
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Bale 2 Scotland 1

broadbandking 12-10-2012 22:00
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
I am glad the Ox finally got his goal, Shame I was thinking Scotland would knick it.

Derek 12-10-2012 22:10
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35484331)
Bale 2 Scotland 1
Another outstanding result from Scotland. Bah who cares about the world cup anyway? :erm:

Osem 12-10-2012 22:37
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35484336)
Another outstanding result from Scotland. Bah who cares about the world cup anyway? :erm:
Don't worry, it'll all be better when Salmond gets his way... ;)

broadbandking 14-10-2012 08:44
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35484336)
Another outstanding result from Scotland. Bah who cares about the world cup anyway? :erm:
You can dream you will one day, crazy thought you could support England lol

denphone 14-10-2012 08:55
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 35484714)
You can dream you will one day, crazy thought you could support England lol
l think they would rather take a trek to the North Pole rather then embrace that wonderful idea.:)

Derek 14-10-2012 09:09
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 35484714)
You can dream you will one day, crazy thought you could support England lol
I could also reach down my throat, rip out my own kidneys and wear them as earrings. Doesn't mean it's going to happen though. :erm:

I actually don't mind the England team but the commentators and media reaction whenever England are playing mean I'm taking the Andy Murray route.

denphone 16-10-2012 19:22
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
England make six changes from the 5-0 win over San Marino. Right-back Glen Johnson, centre-back Joleon Lescott and left-back Ashley Cole return to the defence.

Captain Steven Gerrard, back from suspension, and James Milner start in midfield, while striker Jermain Defoe is restored to the attack. Kyle Walker, Gary Cahill, Leighton Baines, Theo Walcott, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Danny Welbeck make way.

colin25 16-10-2012 19:36
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Watched end of under 21s..shocking ending

denphone 16-10-2012 19:40
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Well at the moment one wonders whether we will be having a match tonight as there are shambolic goings on out in Warsaw.:(:td:

thenry 16-10-2012 19:40
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
total incompetence. havent they got weather reports in Poland? and sprinklers?

colin25 16-10-2012 19:58
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Might be played tomorrow. Shame for england fans that travelled

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35485783)
total incompetence. havent they got weather reports in Poland? and sprinklers?
Why would they need sprinklers? more water? :)

thenry 16-10-2012 20:02
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35485789)
Why would they need sprinklers? more water? :)
rain is forecasted. close roof. use sprinklers.

denphone 16-10-2012 20:08
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
It is utterly shambolic incompetence by FIFA and the Polish FA.

Julian 16-10-2012 20:11
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
I think they should start the match between the subs.

sir_drinks_alot 16-10-2012 20:17
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
can't see anyway this match being played tonight or for a matter a fact Tomorrow

v0id 16-10-2012 20:21
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Get them on that pitch. Do you think rain would have stopped play 50 years ago? This isn't cricket
The players today are payed too much and wrapped in cotton wool.

denphone 16-10-2012 20:23
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35485801)
Get them on that pitch. Do you think rain would have stopped play 50 years ago? This isn't cricket
The players today are payed too much and wrapped in cotton wool.
Come on only a idiot would play on that pitch at the moment.:nono:

sir_drinks_alot 16-10-2012 20:26
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Now i remember thay i don't watch football on ITV :(

Osem 16-10-2012 20:48
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Don't worry if they can shut the roof they'll dry the pitch in 30 mins., well according to the Polish press officer...

thenry 16-10-2012 20:50
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
is that thanks to the 'heating system' :D

Hom3r 16-10-2012 21:07
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Match posponed until tomorrow, fire the man who decided against shutting the roof.

Dave42 16-10-2012 21:13
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35485830)
Match posponed until tomorrow, fire the man who decided against shutting the roof.
lets hope they close roof now and keep it shut tomorrow

belguim 1 scotland 0
belguim 2 scotland 0 thanks super fletch taken off and can get some rest for weekends game for us

Osem 17-10-2012 08:58
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Well the sun's out in Warsaw now so they've been able to shut the roof... :rofl:

denphone 17-10-2012 16:30
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
England poor here at the moment.:(

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Yes the first useful thing Rooney has done.:cleader:

Osem 17-10-2012 17:07
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
England would do a whole lot better if they stopped just giving the ball away...

denphone 17-10-2012 17:27
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35486072)
England would do a whole lot better if they stopped just giving the ball away...
l am afraid that seems hard for England to do especially in the last couple of years.

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Another mistake by Hart makes it 1-1.:td::(

Dave42 17-10-2012 18:05
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
England are shocking and more proof that fifa's ranking are a shambles

denphone 17-10-2012 18:28
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35486088)
England are shocking and more proof that fifa's ranking are a shambles
Summed up perfectly.:tu:

sir_drinks_alot 17-10-2012 18:54
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35486088)
England are shocking and more proof that fifa's ranking are a shambles
indeed

Shadow Demon UK 17-10-2012 19:54
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Joe Hart, best goalkeeper in the world....LOL!

denphone 17-10-2012 19:57
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35486141)
Joe Hart, best goalkeeper in the world....LOL!
Prone to mistakes here and there in the important games.

thenry 14-11-2012 19:30
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
lots of changes for this friendly

denphone 14-11-2012 19:33
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35496760)
lots of changes for this friendly
Indeed but l think its unwise to overface Raheen Sterling because the lad is only 17 years old and its important we don't overburden him as the great new hope of English football.

thenry 14-11-2012 21:22
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
goal!!!!

Russ 14-11-2012 21:28
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Of all the teams that goal could have been scored against, I'm so glad it was England and not Wales :D

denphone 15-11-2012 05:00
Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35496854)
goal!!!!
Yes it was a wonderful goal.:clap:


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