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vincerooney 25-03-2024 00:50

What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Howdy all,

Just wondering how the migration to Virgin TV 360 is occurring? How many of you fine people have migrated over.

I have 3 tivo v6s and my mum likes all her recordings and series links. I'm still curious what is missing from the 360 compared to the v6 and also what the 360 has over the v6 now a few years after launch?

Paul 25-03-2024 03:08

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Not with VM (for TV).

joglynne 25-03-2024 09:57

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
I've still got a couple of V6 boxes. They suit us and my husband, a dedicated technophobe, would certainly not want to, or enjoy, moving over to the 360.

If the programmes he likes were all on freeview we would, most likely, ditch VM TV in a shot.

RichardCoulter 25-03-2024 10:01

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Do they still offer the V6 or do new customers have to have the 360?

Mr K 25-03-2024 10:01

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Never mind 360/V6 migration I've only just migrated my old tivo box to a V6. Won't be touching the 360, sounds like a downgrade.

denphone 25-03-2024 10:08

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
We have several 360s in our household, in my view, not others in our household, l prefer the V6 box.

TimeLord2018 25-03-2024 10:56

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36172463)
Do they still offer the V6 or do new customers have to have the 360?

V6 and 360 are basically identical in hardware terms , it's the firmware that's different (TiVo and Horizon)

Kevc69 25-03-2024 12:20

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
pair of 360's, the wife misses the ability to resurrect accidentally deleted recordings and multichannel series link though.

spiderplant 25-03-2024 13:00

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36172463)
Do they still offer the V6 or do new customers have to have the 360?

New customers have to have 360 or Stream

Saul's Grandad 25-03-2024 13:30

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
We have a V6 as the main, downstairs box and a TiVo upstairs. I don't think we will be hurrying to upgrade to the 360 after reading about it on here.

RichardCoulter 25-03-2024 15:28

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36172477)
New customers have to have 360 or Stream

Thanks SP.

It stands to reason that the poll will change in favour of the 360 over time then.

Do you know if/when people will be forcibly migrated from V6 to 360?

heavyside 25-03-2024 16:02

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevc69 (Post 36172474)
pair of 360's, the wife misses the ability to resurrect accidentally deleted recordings and multichannel series link though.

An undelete feature is the one thing that I miss from the V6. Hopefully it will appear in some form in a future update. Otherwise, I'm very happy I changed to the 360. It does everything else I need and does it well.

Mr K 25-03-2024 16:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36172482)
Thanks SP.

It stands to reason that the poll will change in favour of the 360 over time then.

Do you know if/when people will be forcibly migrated from V6 to 360?

Given that VM are still letting a lot of customers still struggle with the V6s predecessor, the original Tivo box, probably a long time away.

Problem with any 360 'upgrade' is the loss of all recordings, which many customers would go apeshit about.

alwaysabear 25-03-2024 16:39

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Still have the the original Tivo box, it works for me.

Mr K 25-03-2024 16:45

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 36172487)
Still have the the original Tivo box, it works for me.

We probably need another option on this poll then !

I suspect there are a lot still with the original tivo, VM will only replace with a V6 as a result of a fault. For me it just got too slow, I considered that a fault, reported it as such, and got it replaced with a V6. Just be sure they don't give you a 360!

spiderplant 25-03-2024 18:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36172482)
Do you know if/when people will be forcibly migrated from V6 to 360?

Yes :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36172489)
We probably need another option on this poll then !

If not three:
- TiVo
- V6 and TiVo
- Stream

RichardCoulter 25-03-2024 23:28

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36172503)
Yes :)


If not three:
- TiVo
- V6 and TiVo
- Stream

Are you able to say when forced migration will start?

Are there still even older boxes on the network where people now receive only Channels 1 to 5?

spiderplant 26-03-2024 13:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36172515)
Are you able to say when forced migration will start?

No

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36172515)
Are there still even older boxes on the network where people now receive only Channels 1 to 5?

No

Rillington 27-03-2024 12:01

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Tivo should be added as there are people here who still have a Tivo box.

Joedm45 27-03-2024 13:17

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Remember there is still a need for the original TiVo as it doesn't require a broadband connection. I know one or two older customers that have no interest in having broadband (no smartphone, tablet etc) but want pay TV.

I would then assume if you have to keep the original TiVo then there is little point in forcing V6 to 360 migration as the software still needs to be supported somehow.

Of course the answer would be to offer 'free' broadband to those original TiVo customers migrating to a 360, VM wouldn't do that surely

Inactive Digital 27-03-2024 14:38

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 36172601)
Remember there is still a need for the original TiVo as it doesn't require a broadband connection. I know one or two older customers that have no interest in having broadband (no smartphone, tablet etc) but want pay TV.

I would then assume if you have to keep the original TiVo then there is little point in forcing V6 to 360 migration as the software still needs to be supported somehow.

Of course the answer would be to offer 'free' broadband to those original TiVo customers migrating to a 360, VM wouldn't do that surely

Perhaps one solution would be similar to the digital voice product where customers are provided with a hub that can't otherwise access the internet.

ozsat 27-03-2024 14:48

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It does require a broadband connection - but not a broadband subscription so no hub. The subscriber does not have access to that broadband service.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 36172601)
Remember there is still a need for the original TiVo as it doesn't require a broadband connection. I know one or two older customers that have no interest in having broadband (no smartphone, tablet etc) but want pay TV.

I would then assume if you have to keep the original TiVo then there is little point in forcing V6 to 360 migration as the software still needs to be supported somehow.

Of course the answer would be to offer 'free' broadband to those original TiVo customers migrating to a 360, VM wouldn't do that surely


Paul 27-03-2024 19:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 36172592)
Tivo should be added as there are people here who still have a Tivo box.

Added.

vincerooney 28-03-2024 00:15

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36172629)
Added.

thanks mod! apologies all for missing the original tivo which i had. my friend has it and it went so slow he just disconnected it even though he still pays for virgin media tv....

Isnt it slow for people still with it?

jfman 28-03-2024 07:34

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
I know someone with it and for watching TV it's perfectly fine. They use apps on their TV and a games console to stream.

Joedm45 28-03-2024 13:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36172606)
It does require a broadband connection - but not a broadband subscription so no hub. The subscriber does not have access to that broadband service.

Yes, that is what I meant. To a non techie with a TiVo they haven't got a broadband connection. In reality, there is one as part of the box, it is just not physically seen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 36172605)
Perhaps one solution would be similar to the digital voice product where customers are provided with a hub that can't otherwise access the internet.

Good idea, I didn't know such a hub existed.

jfman 28-03-2024 15:41

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What's the price difference between standalone TV and the equivalent bundle? I assume standalone TV is a legacy product they don't retail any more.

Edit: lol the cheapest broadband plus TV option is 100 a month for 132 meg and 190 channels. Much, much cheaper to take the digital voice product too at £39 a month.

Rillington 29-03-2024 10:15

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 36172601)
Remember there is still a need for the original TiVo as it doesn't require a broadband connection. I know one or two older customers that have no interest in having broadband (no smartphone, tablet etc) but want pay TV.

I would then assume if you have to keep the original TiVo then there is little point in forcing V6 to 360 migration as the software still needs to be supported somehow.

Of course the answer would be to offer 'free' broadband to those original TiVo customers migrating to a 360, VM wouldn't do that surely

I think sooner rather than later VM will write to TV only customers telling them that the Tivo box will be switched off on this date and you need to 'upgrade' to VM's broadband service if you wish to continue to access television services via Virgin Media.

I wonder if Virgin Media would add a note in the small print of that letter that if you refuse the 'upgrade' you will be seen as breaching your contract and be made to pay contract break charges, which I believe is every single penny you would have paid for the remaining period of the contract.

I'm just so relieved that I am no longer a customer of Virgin Media.

jfman 29-03-2024 13:04

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I can't see them charging the customer for breaching their contract when it'd be Virgin ceasing the service. Chances are the vast majority are on a rolling deal anyway.

Paul 29-03-2024 23:44

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
I doubt it would be legal to charge them if they removed the service.

Dude111 30-03-2024 04:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul
Not with VM (for TV).

I see im not the only one who isnt :)

Paul 30-03-2024 18:45

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Well you're not in the UK, so you cant be.

Dude111 30-03-2024 23:55

Ya I suppose so :)

But is VM a good cable co. Paul?? -- Do they still have Standard Channels?

If you only have a standard def box,the channels probably are too wide huh??

RichardCoulter 31-03-2024 00:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36172774)
Ya I suppose so :)

But is VM a good cable co. Paul?? -- Do they still have Standard Channels?

If you only have a standard def box,the channels probably are too wide huh??

I believe that all boxes on the Virgin network are now HD capable.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36172699)
I can't see them charging the customer for breaching their contract when it'd be Virgin ceasing the service. Chances are the vast majority are on a rolling deal anyway.

In this scenario it would be Virgin changing the agreed contract, so the customer should be allowed to cancel without penalty.

When the time comes that customers will be required to move from the V6 to the 360 I imagine that the same will apply if this is done mid contract.

epsilon 31-03-2024 04:57

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36172515)
Are you able to say when forced migration will start?

According to OB, all paths lead to 2035. :p:

Rillington 01-04-2024 06:27

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36172732)
I see im not the only one who isnt :)

I'm not with Virgin Media for anything! :)

Dude111 01-04-2024 14:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
I believe that all boxes on the Virgin network are now HD capable

Ya One time I had an HD reciever and it could pick up the 20 HD channels the cable company offered (This was many years ago) and I hooked it up to a standard TV and watched the HD channels...... They looked OK but much too wide for a standard screen!

OLD BOY 01-04-2024 16:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36172779)
According to OB, all paths lead to 2035. :p:

I dare say we will all be migrated to Virgin Stream by then! ;)

tweetiepooh 02-04-2024 09:35

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
I have both V6 and TiVo. These are both below the TV with the V6 hiding behind the TiVo as the remote for the V6 is radio based not IR it can hide. Also the TiVo is is not connected to the TV and is used for additional recording storage and scheduling.

epsilon 02-04-2024 18:05

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36172846)
I dare say we will all be migrated to Virgin Stream by then! ;)

If there is a TV service left after the churn from such a move...

jobbie8 02-04-2024 19:35

Re: What do you have now in terms of a TV Box
 
I now use Sky Stream, a great little box, the picture is amazing, even SD channels. I did have 360, but before that V6 and original TiVo. I only have BB250 with VM now.


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