Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35882770)

Indeed it is but discoverys behavioyr could make things very difficult for malones companies in the future we all know what SKY are like and they will likely retaliate by making negotiations difficult for vm in 2019 and this could include fox, nat geo channels too.
Then say if Discovery pull the same crap to BT, BT could retaliate too when negotiations for BT sports come around.
End of the day it's going to get very messy and there will only be one loser and that is us the consumer.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35882792)

The board is set, the pieces are moving. We come to it at last... The great battle of our time.;)

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35882799)

The two main pieces are getting on a bit now Murdoch is 85 and Malone 75.

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35882815)

A potential tactic for Discovery to take is to close down Quest and allow DMAX to go FTA.

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35882815)

A potential tactic for Discovery to take is to close down Quest and allow DMAX to go FTA. Furthermore, I would keep Discovery, Discovery Science, Animal Planet, TLC, ID and Eurosport 1 & 2 HD behind a pay wall and allow the re-launched DMAX, Discovery History, Discovery Turbo, Discovery Shed, Home & Health and Eurosport 1 & 2 SD to become available to Freeview and Freesat as well.

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35882815)

A potential tactic for Discovery to take is to close down Quest and allow DMAX to go FTA. Furthermore, I would keep Discovery, Discovery Science, Animal Planet, TLC, ID and Eurosport 1 & 2 HD behind a pay wall and allow the re-launched DMAX, Discovery History, Discovery Turbo, Discovery Shed, Home & Health and Eurosport 1 & 2 SD to become available to Freeview and Freesat as well.

Originally Posted by Bananaman_007 (Post 35882827)

This has been brewing for a few years. Not sure if you all remember the failed launch of Quest on Freeview? Well i have it on good authority that it was Sky that was the reason behind this. Discovery planned to launch Quest with a range of programming that had only just aired or was about to air on the main Discovery channels. Sky got its legal team involved as they believed that Discovery were in breach of contract with regards to showing its content on other channels.

Discovery had to basically scrap 80% of its proposed line up and had to ready different content for Quest which is why it took a few months after the original date to come on air.

Sky have also reduced the amount it pays to some other content providers which is one of the reasons Home appeared on Freeview. Sky wanted to pay a certain amount for the UKTV channels which like we have seen with Discovery was lower then the current amount. The agreement was Home would not be included in the new deal therefore making it available for Freeview when previously it was part of a pay tv deal with Sky that prevented that.

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That may not be needed the Tru Tv slots on Freeview are up for sale and people on Digitalspy seem to think it was Discovery who were the highest bidders. My inital thought was that Eurosport or a version of would come to Freeview due to Discovery need to broadcast a percentage of its Olympics coverage on Freeview. However i am wondering in if in the mean time they may use this for DMax.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35882929)

Discovery have been testing two new frequencies off the Sky EPG.

First they were showing foreign feeds from their international channels, now they are showing Discovery Shed +1 and Home & Health +2.

Not sure if these are connected to the dispute or not.

Originally Posted by dodgem22 (Post 35882447)

Does anyone know when the current deal is up please?

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35882449)

I believe its in 2019.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35882454)

Quite awhile left on it i think 2019 MB would know more.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35882455)

Viceland has popped up on TV Anywhere (channel 215) with a Coming Soon listing so the launch must be imminent.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35883082)

Not at all related.

Discovery Shed and Home & Health recently moved from the old Lifestyle section to the Entertainment section on the EPG, they will lose their two previous slots unless they put something on them.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35883098)

Viceland has appeared on TV Anywhere (channel 215) with a Coming Soon listing so the launch must be imminent.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35883118)

Yes that's what I posted on here 4 days ago...

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...5#post35882455

...any particular reason why you have copied and pasted my exact words?

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35883116)

Base on info we have WORLDBOX International Packs prices news:

-FRENCH BOUQUET - £6.99 p/month
BFM TV
Euro Channel

-POLISH IMPREZA - £8.00 p/month
No channels on this pack as far as we know...

-RUSSIAN PREMIYERA - £10.00 p/month
CTC

-SPANISH VIVA -£5.99 p/month
Canal 24 Horas (Spain).
VIVA

-PORTUGUESE COLETA -£6.99 p/month
-Coleta
-Sic International

We just got this information from our sources (Channel names not confirm).

Due to not having TiVo can anyone confirm?

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35883120)

In this thread we share information received for the benefit of others.

It is not some sort of competition and it does sometimes occur where information is duplicated.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35883116)

Base on info we have WORLDBOX International Packs prices news:

-FRENCH BOUQUET - £6.99 p/month
BFM TV
Euro Channel

-POLISH IMPREZA - £8.00 p/month
No channels on this pack as far as we know...

-RUSSIAN PREMIYERA - £10.00 p/month
CTC

-SPANISH VIVA -£5.99 p/month
Canal 24 Horas (Spain).
VIVA

-PORTUGUESE COLETA -£6.99 p/month
-Coleta
-Sic International

We just got this information from our sources (Channel names not confirm).

Due to not having TiVo can anyone confirm?

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35883122)

-ARABIC

Nessma is free

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35883122)

I've just checked, the correct details are:

-FRENCH BOUQUET - £6.99 p/month
France 2
France 3
France 5
Cartoon TV (Coming Soon)

BFM TV and Eurochannel are free

-POLISH IMPREZA - £8.00 p/month
iTVN
iTVN Extra
TVN 24

-RUSSIAN PREMIYERA - £10.00 p/month
Planeta HD
Moolt
Bestseller

CTC is free

-SPANISH VIVA - £5.99 p/month
Antena 3
Atreseries (aka A3Series)
MIS
TVE

Canal 24 Horas and VIVA are free

-PORTUGUESE COLETA - £6.99 p/month
Benfica TV
TVI International
TVI Ficcao
Crinca TV

Sic International is free

-EUROPEAN

TGCOM24, 1 +1 and TVRI are free

-ARABIC

Nessma is free

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I don't see the point of "sharing" information which has already been posted by someone else only a few days ago by copying and pasting it. That's deliberately duplicating information for no reason, and is of no benefit to anyone on here.

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35883210)

I was looking at those over the weekend and found it a little strange that the separate Spanish / Portuguese pay apps have been dropped and the foreign pay tv channels had been lumped in with the free ones in the main Worldbox app. Possibly a little confusing to anyone not noticing the BUY logo on the pay tv channels and thinking that these are just extra free channels.

The price points are possibly a little high. I would have thought that anyone desperate to receive these channels would have been using "unofficial" streaming services for quite some time. It could be difficult to persuade such people to pay for this service, rather than use the "unofficial" streams offering the same channels plus many more but for zero cost. In short, the packages seem to be lightweight and overpriced.

Russian channel CTC is written in the Cyrillic alphabet, so STS in the Roman / Latin alphabet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS_(TV_channel)

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Still no "Hafla" for the Arabic bouquet...

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35883401)

http://www.a516digital.com/2017/01/d...e-reached.html

BREAKING NEWS:

Discovery and Sky settle ongoing dispute just four-and-a-half-hours before the channels were scheduled to disappear from Sky's EPG.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35883413)

The dispute is not over yet.

SKY UK CEO Stephen van Rooyen:

"The deal has been concluded on the right terms after Discovery accpeted the proposal we gave them over a week ago."

Discovery have responded:

"The deal we reached with SKY is meaningfully better than our former agreement and their proposal. Furthermore, our new arrangement enables us to control our destiny in more ways, with even more opportunities to invest and launch channels and consumer services. Stay tuned in the coming weeks."

Read into that what you will. Got the feeling Discovery are planning their own streaming service. One thing for sure SKY where more than prepared to let the Disovery Network channels go. SKY also confirmed earlier today a deal with PBS America to offer “the best of PBS’ factual programming.” SKY also confirmed they are to add more than 1,000 hours of on-demand programming from nonfiction channels including History and National Geographic.

I'm happy with the outcome. Discovery Network channels continue plus even more factual on demand content than ever before.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35883405)

What's with all the above crap about French, Russian, Polish TV etc etc, does anyone really give two monkeys!

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35883443)

Here's a clue
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18234930

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35883449)

If we looked a bit more into our history we have been having a foreign influx of people into this country for hundreds of years and more so its nothing new in some aspects so l can certainly see why TV providers have these foreign language channels on their platforms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor..._Great_Britain

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35883405)

What's with all the above crap about French, Russian, Polish TV etc etc, does anyone really give two monkeys!

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35883683)

Is UKTV Play on VM?

I thought that we now had it, but am unable to find it.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35883698)

Yes, but it's been broken for over 5 months, since the last TiVo software update in August last year. Press red on any UKTV channel to try to access it, but most commonly you'll get an error like 'Channel Not Available' or it will load under a semi transparent screen.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35883413)

The dispute is not over yet.

SKY UK CEO Stephen van Rooyen:

"The deal has been concluded on the right terms after Discovery accpeted the proposal we gave them over a week ago."

Discovery have responded:

"The deal we reached with SKY is meaningfully better than our former agreement and their proposal. Furthermore, our new arrangement enables us to control our destiny in more ways, with even more opportunities to invest and launch channels and consumer services. Stay tuned in the coming weeks."

Read into that what you will. Got the feeling Discovery are planning their own streaming service. One thing for sure SKY where more than prepared to let the Disovery Network channels go. SKY also confirmed earlier today a deal with PBS America to offer “the best of PBS’ factual programming.” SKY also confirmed they are to add more than 1,000 hours of on-demand programming from nonfiction channels including History and National Geographic.

I'm happy with the outcome. Discovery Network channels continue plus even more factual on demand content than ever before.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35884165)

"Vodafone has put its plans to join Britain’s crowded pay-TV market on pause indefinitely as it battles tough trading on home turf and strives to build its share of the broadband market."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...odafone-sales/

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35884171)

Strange if they have put it on pause as they've been trialing it to some customers and increased the trialist base last week.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35884165)

"Vodafone has put its plans to join Britain’s crowded pay-TV market on pause indefinitely as it battles tough trading on home turf and strives to build its share of the broadband market."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...odafone-sales/

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35884192)

I agree, theone, and a big reason why they are not getting more broadband customers is that their rivals offer telly - but they don't!

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35884199)

The broadband customer base is growing steadily. Mostly due to the no line rental on fibre.

I am surprised by the TV though they have spent a lot of money on it over the last few years and have tried to make a decent products

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35884210)

Vodafone's offering in Ireland looks relatively threadbare against VM and Sky so I can understand if they decided not to enter the market. EE's TV offering in the UK had just 98,000 customers when BT bought the company so perhaps Vodafone felt like O2 and Three felt it was not worthwhile.
If Vodafone does want to enter the UK pay-TV market then perhaps it could acquire TalkTalk. It could operate TalkTalk the same way that BT does with Plusnet but use its infrastructure to launch a TV service.
Vodafone might want to pounce sooner than later as TalkTalk's founder and 30% shareholder Sir Charles Dunstone is now starting to pull the strings and Dido Harding is leaving with a nine-month pay-off.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35884192)

I agree, theone, and a big reason why they are not getting more broadband customers is that their rivals offer telly - but they don't!

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35884210)

Vodafone's offering in Ireland looks relatively threadbare against VM and Sky so I can understand if they decided not to enter the market. EE's TV offering in the UK had just 98,000 customers when BT bought the company so perhaps Vodafone felt like O2 and Three felt it was not worthwhile.
If Vodafone does want to enter the UK pay-TV market then perhaps it could acquire TalkTalk. It could operate TalkTalk the same way that BT does with Plusnet but use its infrastructure to launch a TV service.
Vodafone might want to pounce sooner than later as TalkTalk's founder and 30% shareholder Sir Charles Dunstone is now starting to pull the strings and Dido Harding is leaving with a nine-month pay-off.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35884251)

I do see the tv with BT as a bonus to my broadband ok i'm paying £10 extra a month but it's there if my other means goes pear shaped.
Also suprisingly SSE are rumoured to be trialing tv some point this year.

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From what little info i had, vodafone uk tv was going to be based on nowtv with a few additions aka nat geo, h2, tcm.
The details were always quite sketchy though.

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35884317)

They spent a lot of money on it over the last couple of years. Seems a strange choice when it would have only been near launch.

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35884317)

They spent a lot of money on it over the last couple of years. Seems a strange choice when it would have only been near launch.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35884472)

Anything interesting on the horizon for Virgin TV this year...?

I hope that Amazon Video will finally appear on 205, justifying Virgin's claim of bringing together all the TV you love in one place.

Viceland looks to be launching on 215 very soon.

Is there more that we know about or is rumoured?

Maybe a few other missing HD channels like History HD, C+I HD, E! HD, Nick Jr HD, Boomerang HD, Disney Channel HD, Disney Junior HD and Disney XD HD?

An end to ITV Encore's exclusivity on Sky or AMC's exclusivity on BT? Not that there is much of value on either channel, in my opinion.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35884477)

Well, those are the questions of the day, SonicMaster, to which there are absolutely no answers at this time!

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35884867)

The continuing absence of History HD, C+I HD and E! HD is particularly strange as all of them are available on BT in addition to Sky. History HD and C+I HD are even available in Virgin Media in Ireland, but not here!

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35884875)

... Murdoch owns them, obviously VM don't want to pay the price.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35884881)

What's interesting is H2 is available in HD on Virgin Media but not SKY

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35884875)

... Murdoch owns them, obviously VM don't want to pay the price.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35884883)

VM are knocking some decent offers out it seems or they are desperate for custom.
Had a phonecall of them today inviting me to return to vm and get a v6 box on full house tv pack, 200mb vivid broadband and weekend calls for £30p/m plus £14.99 activation.
Not a bad offer tbf but i declined as i' still in contract with BT and wouldn't tust VM as far as i could throw them.

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H2HD is also on BT too so that puts to bed the vm cults shouting "murdoch won't et us have them."
Also i think my youview box glitched today or bt are getting sky channels very soon as 301 sky1 showed up on my EPG then vanished again.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35884889)

My my you do seem to have a ongoing grudge against Virgin it seems.:shocked:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35884897)

That's a great offer, but it just shows you that ppl like myself are being ripped off, as we are paying over £100 for the very same or similar package, and looks like we are subsidising new customers!

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35884897)

That's a great offer, but it just shows you that ppl like myself are being ripped off, as we are paying over £100 for the very same or similar package, and looks like we are subsidising new customers!

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35884886)

Not sure that makes much sense, Virgin Media pay for History HD and C+I HD in Ireland, so why not in the UK...

Also as Chad says, they do pay for H2.

E! HD is nothing to do with Murdoch...

Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35885223)

The agreement in Ireland is the existing one with UPC (before the rebrand as Virgin Media Ireland) which is still run as a seperate company. We will have to see what happens when the agreement comes up for renewal.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35885241)

Yes, Virgin seem to have an aversion to updating contracts part way through.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35885242)

It's just weird. Why on earth didn't they secure History HD and C+I HD when they signed up H2 HD!

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35885243)

This is VM what did you expect?

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35885242)

It's just weird. Why on earth didn't they secure History HD and C+I HD when they signed up H2 HD!

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35885247)

Only what l expect from you.....;)

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35885260)

I don't have a tv company though :p:
I reckon you're a secret VM CEO ;)

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35885569)

Irish Independent: Virgin Media backs new €3m TV3 drama as broadcaster develops indigenous programme output.

TV3 has secured funding from the Virgin Media group for a new €3m drama, as the broadcaster further develops its indigenous programme output.

TV3 also houses Virgin Media Solutions for the UK and Ireland, which is working on new 'addressable advertising' for the Virgin TV platform.

This will allow it to tailor ads to individuals.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...dia-backs.html

Colors HD to launch tomorrow on Sky but Colors reveal that they are also in talks with other service providers.

"Colors UK has been an unprecedented audience entertainer which has provided diverse options for the South Asian audience for over seven years. We are committed towards showcasing top-notch content on our channels and are glad to join hands with Sky to bring HD quality content to viewers in the region, thereby making Colors UK HD the preferred entertainment destination for the audience. We are also in talks with other service providers and distributors in Europe to launch our HD service.”

http://www.indiantelevision.com/tele...-14-feb-170213

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35885569)

Irish Independent: Virgin Media backs new €3m TV3 drama as broadcaster develops indigenous programme output.

TV3 has secured funding from the Virgin Media group for a new €3m drama, as the broadcaster further develops its indigenous programme output.

TV3 also houses Virgin Media Solutions for the UK and Ireland, which is working on new 'addressable advertising' for the Virgin TV platform.

This will allow it to tailor ads to individuals.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...dia-backs.html

Colors HD to launch tomorrow on Sky but Colors reveal that they are also in talks with other service providers.

"Colors UK has been an unprecedented audience entertainer which has provided diverse options for the South Asian audience for over seven years. We are committed towards showcasing top-notch content on our channels and are glad to join hands with Sky to bring HD quality content to viewers in the region, thereby making Colors UK HD the preferred entertainment destination for the audience. We are also in talks with other service providers and distributors in Europe to launch our HD service.”

http://www.indiantelevision.com/tele...-14-feb-170213

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35885587)

So vm customers can now expect a £3pm price rise then? :p:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35885608)

I'm surprised at this as Colors stated that the HD variant had been created by "holding hands with Sky", so I had assumed that it would be another HD channel that would be a Sky exclusive.



I also wonder if the personalised ads will start with an apology for lying and messing long term customers about for three months and only doing the right thing after they received a solicitors letter?

From proactively wanting to help VM due to my opinion of Sky, I now view them as simply another service provider who will have to prove to me that they are worthy of each and every contract as they come up for renewal.

All this palava over a one off £10 overcharge will cost them dearly.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35885587)

So vm customers can now expect a £3pm price rise then? :p:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35885587)

So vm customers can now expect a £3pm price rise then? :p:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35885653)

Possibly. But whether we will also get Colours HD is another question! ��

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35885655)

That channel doesn't sound like my cup of tea lol

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35885655)

That channel doesn't sound like my cup of tea lol

Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 35885904)

Can someone tell me why we do not have CNN news in HD.Is there a big difference in price that virgin have to pay between SD and HD feeds.Does anybody have any idea what virgin pay for the SD feed and what the HD price would be.The CNN SD picture quality is garbage.

Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 35885904)

Can someone tell me why we do not have CNN news in HD.Is there a big difference in price that virgin have to pay between SD and HD feeds.Does anybody have any idea what virgin pay for the SD feed and what the HD price would be.The CNN SD picture quality is garbage.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35885907)

I don't know the answer to that, but I really do think, as larger TVs become mainstream, VM should be ensuring that all channels are shown in HD as contracts come up for renewal. Those channels available only in SD are generally those showing repeats of repeats of repeats and perhaps it will soon be time to abandon them if they don't step up.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35885952)

At least one of the top bods in the industry agrees with you.

I recently read that one of the channel operators (can't remember which one) said that filling a (SD) FTA channel with old former pay TV material and hoping to make a profit are over.

I think it must have been Discovery during their recent dispute, or possibly TruTV.

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 35885953)

According the Broadcast, Discovery are set to launch a new FTA channel.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35885962)

That is correct.

http://advanced-television.com/2017/...k-fta-channel/

Discovery confirms new UK FTA channel

Discovery Communications has confirmed that it will launch a second free-to-air channel in the UK later this year.

CEO David Zaslav revealed the plan during an earnings call with reporters, commenting: “While we never look forward to potential carriage standoff, the negotiation with Sky reaffirmed the strong value of our brand portfolio and the passion and engagement of our super fan communities. Our new agreement with Sky in the key UK and German markets includes new opportunities to launch new channels and services. So, we will be helped with more growth in the two biggest media markets in Europe in the years ahead. We will have more news to share in the coming weeks as we will be launching new services, including a second free-to-air channel in the UK, leveraging our strong existing IP to reach more viewers in the UK market, and the new free-to-air channel will make money for us this year.”


Discovery currently airs free-to-air channel Quest on Freeview, as well as Sky and Virgin, in the UK.

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 35885953)

According the Broadcast, Discovery are set to launch a new FTA channel.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35885969)

And was it not your prediction that companies are going to get rid of some of their Linear channels OB instead of creating them.;)

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35886007)

According to an article on a516digital, it says that Eurosport 1, DMAX and TLC are all FTA on satellite in Germany.

I could see all three becoming available (Quest merging into DMAX) and Discovery purchasing a third spot on Freeview and Quest +1 also to cease on Freeview as a result.

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 35885953)

According the Broadcast, Discovery are set to launch a new FTA channel.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35886010)

In the future, yes, Den.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35886031)

Spoken just like the modern day politicians of this country...;)

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35886038)

My linear channels thread is about the future, Den. The clue's in the title! ;)

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35886040)

Is that in the future of 2098 ;) or perhaps in the year 2156 ;)

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 35886074)

Broadcast now reporting Discovery''s new channel will be female-skewed and is being dubbed 'Quest Red'.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35886048)

Hopefully, Sony's takeover of TruTV will improve the programming on that channel.

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2017/...utv-in-the-uk/