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We replaced our main 32" TV with another 32" TV and it looked tiny at first, such had been the progress in technology in the 10 years that meant the frame had been greatly reduced. It is lovely however and makes the room feel bigger. I'm so glad we didn't go bigger. It was a resolution increase though,as it was Full HD, unlike the weird in-between resolution we had before.
On the PC monitor front, I chose one to upgrade one room last year from a 17" screen to a 24" Full HD for much less than the equivalent proper TV. It's hooked up to a Freeview PVR (I already had) and I'm pretty pleased with it. The only problem is there's no remote for the monitor speakers (that particular PVR doesn't have a changeable box volume unlike a FV PVR in another room), but I can add a soundbar with a remote at a later date if I feel like it. Vince is your existing TV Full HD? Or 720p or an in-between resolution? |
Re: New tv which is 4k?
Try to see the TV in person even if you buy it online. Most are OK with static images but fall apart with moving video. This years models are far better than last years or older.
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So are you saying a 4k tv picture on a small 4k monitor would look noticeably better than a 1080p feed on the same monitor ? |
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Size alone isn't a factor in resolution. It's size in relation to viewing distance that matters. If you are sat close enough viewing 4k material then yes it will look better than 1080p. People need to get away from the myth that high resolutions need massive screens. My phone has a screen size of 6.8 inch and a resolution of 3040x1440 and it is HDR. It looks beautiful if viewing 1440p videos, very crisp. That's because it's close to my face. |
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I get your points to an extent but I don't think it's a myth that you need a big screen to appreciate 4K. You can get 55" 8K sets now and you would really be pushed to tell the difference 4k vs 8k unless you stand extremely close to the point of touching it, because 55 inch is too small to fully compliment 8K. (there are plenty of online videos demonstrating this). I have a 3K phone, my wife has a similar model. same screen size with a lower resolution but you really cant tell the difference at those sizes. You mentioned your phone, I would suggest that the main reason it looks so good is the HDR, subjectively it makes a much bigger difference than just moving to 4K. Apple do a 5K laptop screen, it's screen real estate madness, we don't have the visual resolution to see the difference. |
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55" isn't too small if sat at the correct distance, that's the whole point of this debate. No the reason it looked good was because of the resolution which is why I used the word crisp. I don't want to go round in circles. Resolution can't just equal size. It's size in relation to viewing distance that matters. 4k is not pointless on small screens if you are sat close enough to benefit. |
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I'm sure there's a good reason why you can't get small 4K sets yet. The only real benefit would be HDR unless you were literally nose right up to it.
I'm talking about TV screen size vs resolution here. These sites suggest small hi resolution TV sets aren't really worth it. https://carltonbale.com/does-4k-resolution-matter/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-t...s-1080p-vs-4k/ We're clearly not going to agree. You may well be correct about 4K monitors displaying small text etc, I haven't used one but I do have a 55 inch 4K oled tv that I sit about 4-5 feet away from and I'm glad it isn't any smaller as the 4K benefit would be reduced imo. You're also underestimating the subjective benefit that HDR brings, far more than moving from 1080 to 4K. |
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You need to forget the TV vs monitor debate. They are basically the same thing for what we are talking about. They are saying they aren't worth it because of how close you need to sit, which is what this thread is based on. Well yes we wont agree, that's because you keep saying its pointless. It might be pointless to you as your viewing distance states it's pointless but it won't be pointless to others. I'm not sure why you keep mentioning monitors and small text. I was talking about viewing TV channels on a monitor. The 4k benefit would only be reduced because of your viewing distance, not because the screen is smaller. 4k is 4k. 4k doesn't magically get better because the screen is bigger. How have I underestimated HDR? I mentioned it once saying my phone has it, but I mentioned the resolution was good as the picture was crisp. I know how good HDR is, but I wasnt talking about HDR. |
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Thanks Hugh. So if the OP got the smallest size screen they mentioned they'd need to sit 18-24" from the set to appreciate the 4k ness. I don't think you could watch tv with all the motion involved for long at that distance without a headache. |
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