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We do know that the UK is sounding out trade deals with India, Australia and China and that Canada has offered to act as a go-between using their trade deal link with the EU. The UK is examining the opportunities and alternatives in the unlikely event that a satisfactory deal cannot be agreed with the EU. So if the EU turns nasty we can trade elsewhere. Gives the EU an incentive to play fair knowing that others are interested in trading with the UK. |
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We could end up with a visa system like the USA where you need a passport and a visa to gain entry and you have to apply well in advance so that the security service can check you out before approving entry. If you are deemed a risk you don't get a visa and therefore get no access. If you get a visa and you break the rules, your visa is revoked and you are deported. |
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This was a referendum, not an election, it's a fairly elementary and well-understood thing about referendums that they don't come with a manifesto. |
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7058936.html I see pledge and promise feature though |
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TBQH I don't care what system is put in place so long as it is effective in reducing the flood of immigrants that threaten to destroy the public services in this country.
There is some evidence that the Australian points based system is not as effective as it first appears. Visa's may be a more controllable method. |
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Though we do need to reduce the numbers of immigrants, we also need to get the UK's unemployed into work and to ensure that we have the necessary housing, schools, doctors, dentists and jobs for UK nationals in areas where the number of immigrants is large. By offsetting the negative effects of high immigration, UK people will tolerate the numbers so long as they do not affect their lifestyles and it is the responsibility of the government to ensure that the negative effects are addressed with some sense of urgency. |
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We still have no idea of what will happen and the government is sending slightly contradictorily messages. You get the sense they have no idea of what the prospects are for any part of the deal so are leaving their options open. Unless the goldilocks option emerges they're going to have a difficult time. ---------- Post added at 18:51 ---------- Previous post was at 18:49 ---------- Quote:
The fury that will be met with any compromise on immigration that isn't the one envisioned by many for voted will be strong. |
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Given that we've only just voted for Brexit a few months ago the expectation of a dramatic change in immigration is unreasonable.
If, as some want, we expel all immigrants tomorrow this will have a massive negative effect on our lifestyles because we do not have people trained up to take their places and do their jobs. The NHS has a large number of highly trained immigrants working in it. Given the existing medical staff shortages, it would take years to get new people trained up to take their places and thus any reduction in the number of immigrants will be gradual and over a number of years. When numbers do fall, this will free up places in schools, doctors' & dentists' surgeries and housing accomodation though it will be some time before it happens.It won't be an overnight phenomenon. |
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Well in fairness to boris he only got into brexit as his way to the party leadership and now that's off the cards a change in tact was to be expected I'm sure we will see more from him in the coming months. Apart from his own ambition boris is extremely elastic on personal beliefs and convictions a strong breeze can sway them sometimes.
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Given the amount of poor planning and financial waste we have had from government Boris can still welcome the next Polish generation because they have skills, are cheaper and are more willing to work.
Let's not forget that at one time we used to be a major manufacturing country until we priced ourselves out of the market allowing China, Taiwan etc to take over. If those at the top had been more willing to share the excessive payments made to them with the workers we probably still would be. |
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